Sunday, September 29, 2019

September 29, 2019 | Posted in by Daiki | 1 comment

Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD - CT1000P1SSD8

Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD - CT1000P1SSD8

Why get it:
- Much faster than SATA SSD
- Great performance-per-watt and low idle power. Great for laptops.
- Great Crucial (Micron) support / reliability /warranty (I used their support once on a M4 SSD)
- Plenty of endurance for typical consumer use cases
- Free Acronis True Image SW to clone old drive into this new SSD

Why skip it:
- Not suitable for server workloads (e.g. highly transactional DBs) or people that, on a daily base, write >25GB worth of data

Performance summary:
- Data Rate: ~2.5X faster than SATA drives, ~40% less than high-end PCIe NVMe in heavy-duty workloads
- Latency: ~¼ lower than SATA drives, ~40% higher than high-end PCIe NVMe in heavy-duty workloads
- On typical consumer workloads (mixed random R/W low queue depth), there is no noticeable difference relative to a high-end PCIe NVMe

I Got the Crucial P1 500GB SSD for my hp-slimline 290-0014 desktop. The PC has a Menlo motherboard, which has an M.2 2280 port that provides PCIe 3.0 x2 only (not x4). I had no issues installing the SSD cloning my original HDD into it, and booting from the SSD. The desktop, which is powered by i7-8700 CPU, became a real beast after this upgrade.

I attached a screenshot to show the R/W speed rate, and it's quite fast. However, the SSD is not functioning at it's highest speed because my MB doesn't support the PCIe 3.0 x4. It's not a big deal from me though. The SSD temperature is always below 37C (~98F) while on idle. It does go up to 60s when there are intensive reading/writing tasks going on, but this is usually normal for SSD's.

The only thing that frustrated me is that there was no screw included with the SSD. The screw size is M.2 3mm D4, and it's quite expensive ($6+) on Amazon. Other online websites won't ship before two weeks (Are you serious?). I tried to find it locally with no success. So, I ended up taking one from one of my old laptops, which has a smaller head (D3), but it does work.

Overall, I am so happy with the purchase so far. Will update in the future in case if I experienced any issue.

At this price point, this drive is a no-brainer: it's an NVMe SSD from one of the best names in the business, but at the same price point as a SATA SSD. The performance isn't on par with high-end SSDs like the Samsung EVO or Pro series, but it's still much better than even a top-notch SATA SSD.

In the worst cases, the performance is at least as good as any SATA SSD. In all other cases, performance is definitely beyond that of any SATA SSD, albeit about 1/2 to 2/3 the performance of a top-tier NVMe drive.

This is not a great drive for constant heavy loads, such as a database server, but it's perfect as a daily driver for demanding applications that work in bursts of activity, such as gaming or pro audio (I personally need and use large SSDs for both).

If the upcoming 2TB version is priced similarly, I'll definitely purchase one of those as well.

Copying a 25GB folder of video files (average size is about 200MB each) happened in seconds, and rocketed by at about 1300 MBps. The source drive was a 970 EVO 1TB NVMe SSD.

Copying a 27GB folder of over 40,000 audio samples (mostly small files, such as one-second drum hits) took about 2 minutes. The transfer speed was about 50 MBps at the lowest, and about 400 MBps peak. The slower speeds were due to batches of tiny files. The source drive was a Micron M1100 2TB SATA 2.5" SSD, which limits the top read speed to about 500 MBps.

Copying the 25GB video folder from the P1 back to itself took about 1 minute, ranging from about 200 MBps to about 2000 Mbps. Caching and other under-the-hood magic probably accelerated this process.

The temps are about the same as any other M.2 SSD (48 C idle, 64 C at constant load for a few minutes). The temps were slightly lower than those of my 970 EVO 1TB M.2 NVMe in the same system.

Crucial is a trusted name in memory and storage, going back decades. I remember years ago, Crucial was one of the few brands of memory recommended by Mac enthusiasts for upgrades of Apple computers.

The days of upgrading Macs are pretty much over, so I replaced my outgrown Mac with a custom built PC. It’s no surprise that I chose Crucial. I have never had an issue with any product I’ve bought from Crucial, and the one time in decades I’ve needed to call Support, they provided better support than Apple.

This drive is fast, and I have no hesitation in recommending it or expecting a decade or more of use out of it. I know you’ll be very happy with it.

This was the cheapest NVME drive I could find, and overall it is a good buy.

Crucial is a known brand, and I used to have memory from this maker, so I thought that the quality would be at least as good as Samsung; and in part this is true.

Performances so far, show that while it does not hit the peak of other NVME that cost twice as much, it is still quite fast, compared to regular SSD M2, running on SATA3. NVME protocol is used to boost performances and you can tell the difference.

Just some numbers: my internal M2 SATA3 drive read at 521MB/s and write at 480 MB/s; while the internal SATA3 Samsung drive read and write at 530 MB/s. This NVME read at 1798 MB/s and write at 1020 MB/s; so as you can see; the speed is noticeable in both read and write.

If you use this drive for activities that involve fast loading, like video editing, gaming or 3d ; it is a really good buy; but if you plan to use it as everyday drive to run your productivity apps, or as backup, or to move often, small files, then you won't see much improvement. For example for smaller files, the faster one was the SATA3 Samsung, with speed that was consistently higher than both the NVME and M2 drives in writing; sometimes 10-15% faster, just to give you an idea

SSD are not made for backups, nor for moving small files or for productivity in general; at least you don't need NVME for this; because such usage short the lifespan of your SSD; but if you move large files and need a high data transfer rate, then this is the memory for you.

Granted, Samsung cost more for a reason; although this drive is fast enough, compard to your regular SATA3 M2 drive or regular SSD; to make a world of difference


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Feature Product

  • Capacities up to 1TB with sequential reads/writes up to 2,000/1,700 MB/s
  • NVMe PCIe interface marks the next step in storage innovation
  • Micron 3D NAND - advancing the world's memory and storage technology for 40 years
  • 5-year limited warranty

Description

Whether you are trying to get in the game faster or store all your precious memories, the Crucial P1 SSD delivers. Capacities start at 500GB and scale to 1TB. Accelerate performance with the latest NVMe PCIe technology. The P1 is designed to be the only storage upgrade you need — storage, speed, and dependability. Accelerate everything.



I upgraded to this drive from a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO. After benchmarking it and cloning my drive to it, I did notice that, like a lot of reviews here, it gets quite hot during long writes.

After some testing, I found that writing 50GB of small files would eventually slow this SSD down to around 50-60MB/s, while writing a single 50GB file saw the drive maintaining a solid speed of 1.1GB/s. After this initial testing, I decided to put a quality heatsink on it to see if it made any difference (EKWB), and it did have some effect, though nothing significant. After applying the heatsink, I saw the small file transfer go up to around 80-100MB/s, with the single file being unchanged. While it's not a significant jump, and there's still a major bottleneck, it does show that both the built-in cache and the heat have roles here.

Now, would I recommend this drive? Yes and no.

The answer is yes if you want an upgrade to your OS drive and don't frequently write over 20GB-30GB at a time. There will be a bottleneck when you do those writes, but for just reads, it is just as good as it's more expensive competitors.

The answer is no if you intend on using this in a workstation for anything other than your OS. This drive is definitely geared toward non-power users, or users who have other drives to write to directly for most of their larger files. As an OS drive, the cost is very good and it makes a good value, but as a productivity drive, it loses almost all of it's worth.

Now that is installed and I have cloned my old drive onto it, the Crucial P1 works well. But restoring my data onto the drive was painfully slow. This was not unexpected to me, but still a bit annoying.

Be aware that this SSD will write only about 15-100gb at NVMe speeds before dropping to SATA3 drive speeds (~300MB/s). I probably won't have such large writes happen again in daily life, but it certainly taxed my patience to wait for 3 hours while it wrote ~220GB of files. This is by design on QLC drives; the SLC cache is only so large and when it fills it has to fold the data into the slower QLC storage. Normally this isn't a big deal, but good to know.

I installed this in a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro (13") using the short version of the SinTech NVMe adapter without a hitch, other than having to disable hibernate using pmset from the command line. Physical installation took only about 20 minutes. Installing Mojave took 30 min. Then nearly 3 hours to restore from a time machine hard drive connected by USB3.

The measured write transfer speeds jumped from about 600 MB/s using the 256gb Apple ssd to 1250 MB/s using the 1TB P1. This is close to the maximum expected for a 2013 rMBP and was measured under optimal load testing (1GB writes).

I can also say during normal usage the computer also feels faster (not that it felt slow to begin with). The largest software program I use, GIMP, loads about twice as fast.

I mainly bought it to upgrade my storage space, and the speed increase is a nice bonus. All in all, I'm quite happy with the product and the price/performance ratio.

The instructions I followed to upgrade an SSD in a 2013 rMBP were from a thread on MacRumors; the SinTech adapter is available on Amazon.

I bought this Crucial P1 to go in an external drive enclosure designed to hold NVME drives. It worked, but the transfer speeds were not much better than a SATA SSD in an external enclosure. That was disappointing, so I tried using the Crucial P1 plugged into the M.2 slot in my desktop computer. I already had a different NVME drive in that computer, the Adata SX8200SP. Frankly, the Adata SSD was faster, according to Crystal DiskMark 6. But when I installed the Crucial Storage Executive software, and then activated the Momentum Cache for the P1, it dramatically improved the Crystal DiskMark scores, making the Crucial P1 MUCH faster than the Adata drive. The Momentum Cache is similar to the Samsung Magician software that comes with a Samsung SSD. It acts as a RAM cache for the SSD, and in my opinion, it brings Crucial SSD's up to par with Samsung SSDs. And the Crucial drives are quite a bit less expensive than Samsung. I gave the Crucial P1 four stars because it's not the fastest NVME drive on the market, but nonetheless, it's still a very good buy, especially for the price.

Just installed this in a 2013 Macbook Pro 15" Retina, using the Sintech adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FYY3H5F and it works fine.

Note: Disk Utility has some trouble cloning AFPS volumes, so my first attempt failed. Here's what worked: 1. install new drive, install macOS 10.13.5 on it using USB thumb drive installer, then use Migration Assistant to copy over old data from the old drive (using the OWC Envoy Pro external case).

Since Amazon mixes reviews and really needs to get they're act together! This is for Crucial P1 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD - CT1000P1SSD8

1.Best bang for the buck and at the time a few weeks ago it was 109$
2.Speed is very fast for the price and see people in other reviews says its slow? sorry not for the price! its not much slower then the samsungs for 1/3 of the $
3.I see comments about it over heating, you either are writing files all day with no fans installed or you have this mounted to your motherboard on the back where there is little to no air and or need to invest into a board that has real metal thick heat sinks on the front of the board like the Asus Rog Strix b450-i mini ITX! my temps under full load of CrystalDisk is 38c in a mini itx case Thermaltake F1 suppressor! i dont know what other's are complaining about...i have found nothing wrong with this SSD!
4.Buy it....its a steal!!!!!! this test was done with windows 10 and all updates, a few programs, about 8 games 266gb taken up out of 1tb

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